Check out 150: Jamis Buck – Basil & Fabian (formerly of 37signals) from Ruby on Rails Podcast

https://play.google.com/music/m/D6a2wdxoepkowarmyb6jkskm3ue?t=150_Jamis_Buck_Basil_Fabian_formerly_of_37signals_-_Ruby_on_Rails_Podcast

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